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Post by TDANZA420 Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:37 am

Hate to say but we saw this coming a mile away. I took alot of heat for saying the Bulls weren't that good due to the fact that all we do are take Jump shots (just like BigWorm jajajaj) but fail to make them when we need them. Sure Noah and Thomas bring energy and hussle but that never translates into victories. Sure its early and we can still right the ship but untill we add a big man or a go to guy we will never be able to contend with the likes of Detroit - Cleveland - and now Boston........with a healthy Gilbert you can add washington to that list.

Atleast we still have our Luva-bulls
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Post by Hudacris M3 Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:37 am

All i hear about the bulls is how much Kirk Hinrich is sucking this year lol
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Post by canopr360 Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:03 am

Kirk need to be traded to the NETS and we need to get J. Kidd..................
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Post by TDANZA420 Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:41 am

Kirt is not going to light it up nor should he be relied upon to do so. Think what would have happen if Stockton didn't have Malone. He would need to take more shots there for his % would drop and would have been a go to guy. Unfortionitly Kirt is no Stockton but he would benifit from haing another player either a Big man to dump it to or atleast another steady shooter to pass to. IMO Captin kurt is a ball hog that plays to hard at times. First quarter the game is tied 4-4 and he is apply heavy pressure so the refs call a foul.......trouble is he has played this way from day one and needs to learn that they all might not be fouls but the refs are gunna call it based on his reputaion. He signed a pretty nice deal so Jersey won't want him in return with 3yrs and 26Mill left or something like that. I still think he can be a good player on a good team but not a star ala Kidd - Nash - Williams. He's more suited to run an O and play good D
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Post by canopr360 Fri Dec 14, 2007 2:36 pm

WE NEED KIDD.............
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Post by aRod914 Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:51 pm

danza = nba analyst.

I like Kirk H. from what I see from him when the Bulls play the Knicks. He is a pass first point guard who plays pretty decent defense. Anyways, maybe he just having a down start to the season. All I know is, I would love to have this guy on the Knicks.
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Post by Hudacris M3 Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:36 am

and the bulls beat the knicks last night....this is unreal
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Post by aRod914 Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:57 am

yea and speaking of Kirk....the man had a triple-double.
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Post by TDANZA420 Tue Dec 18, 2007 9:27 am

precise1987 wrote:danza = nba analyst.

I like Kirk H. from what I see from him when the Bulls play the Knicks. He is a pass first point guard who plays pretty decent defense. Anyways, maybe he just having a down start to the season. All I know is, I would love to have this guy on the Knicks.

Take him he's all yours, add another over priced player jajaja Kirk is anything but a pass first PG. He constintly dribbles in circles and waits for Ben Wallace to get open then dumps it off to him lol he has his moments but over all he's not the type of PG who can carry a team when needed. He actually plays better when they move him to the 2gaurd and play Duhon at PG. But with Kirk and BG always in foul trouble its hard to get a grove.

Curry = Beast..............JamesOn that is (James + Leon = JamesOn)
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Post by GD360 Tue Dec 18, 2007 9:41 am

Precise, please take TD's words with a grain of salt. He always hates on the Bulls so he's not a real Bull guy. He's more of a Bear fan.

I on the other hand, I am a Bull Fan and I think Kirk has skillz. He has definitely hit a low this season and that can happen to anyone in sports....so I truly understand what he's going through. Some people say he is a ball hog, but what can you do if noone moves or gets open?? I'd like Kirk to always be a Bull. He embodies what this team is built around... Great Defense/Team Players (no All-Stars)....

Good to see a Knick fan appreciate a True-Bull player. Was nice to see he triple doubled in that game... While we are "cross-appreciating".... Balkman is the real deal.... He is like a cross between Joakim and Nocioni... He will be a cornerstone of the Knick one day... Balkmania is ALIVE!!
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Post by Hudacris M3 Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:23 am

Is Balkman getting praise? You know what that means....dancing Balk must return
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Post by Hudacris M3 Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:33 am

damnit where is it? *edit ok here it is lol
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Post by TDANZA420 Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:38 am

GD don't make me mention the years of 1999-2002 when a certian somebody was a fan of the greatest WNBA team the Sacramento Queens Smile I am a huge Bulls fan, but a fan can not be blinded by his heart like i am with the bears. I praised Captin Kirt earlier but using your own words

"He embodies what this team is built around... Great Defense/Team Players (no All-Stars)....."

Team players yes, Great Defense..........that i am not sold on. I only hate on the bulls cause they didn't really do much to improve thier team from last season,
they added Noah who as most people think his type of player is a dime a dozen. Sure high energy might get the crowd into it and spark a little run but that wears out and history has proven that it dosen't win championships.
The replace PJ with Joe Smith - but still lack any inside game and a low post player. Good teams can get away with that (Bulls aren't a good team) - Lakers - Dallas - NJ come to mind as teams without a low post presence but are still good cause they can atleast penitriat and drive to the hole - another thing the bulls are lacking.


Yes Bulkmania is still alive, i think it replaced Hulkimania. We still had DSL $$$ on whether Bulkman or Noah would have a better season. Need to check stats cause i think both are doing not a whole lot
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Post by aRod914 Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:48 am

thats because our dumb@ss of a coach gives more playing time the Jared "I can't catch the ball" Jefferies than the better overall player in Balkman. This alone should have Isaih Fired!
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Post by TDANZA420 Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:53 am

"rex is our quaterback"

Don't worry, with the Bulls and Knicks fighting for the #1 pick we can both add another gaurd to our team jajaja
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Post by aRod914 Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:58 am

I want Rose...forgot his first name, but that dude looks good.
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Post by Hudacris M3 Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:00 pm

The next gilbert arenas supposedly....but do we really need another shoot first PG?
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Post by aRod914 Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:02 pm

good point....dammit Mad
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Post by TDANZA420 Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:02 pm

Yeah buddy Chicagos own and pride of Memphis Derrick Rose..........DUDE IS GOOD. OJ Mayo is doing his thing at USC but Rose seems to have the body - talent and ability to step it up a notch. 1 year in college should help
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Post by TDANZA420 Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:04 pm

Hudacris M3 wrote:The next gilbert arenas supposedly....but do we really need another shoot first PG?

Is Marbury in the last year on his contract? Crawford is more of a SG and Nate prob is best suited as a backup cause of his size. Do the Knicks have another PG???? Why the cut Dan Dicku i will never figure out Rolling Eyes
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Post by Hudacris M3 Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:35 pm

The Knicks problem is that the wrong people are playing with each other. Too many duplicates. The entire starting roster is all offense no defense...and the 2nd unit is all defense no offense....and we wonder why we can never score in the 2nd quarter:

Well the knicks should be like this

Marbury - our best passer - second or 3rd option on offense
Fred Jones - plays defense and can score
Balkman - defends and blocks shots..energy
Randolph - rebounds and our first option on offense
Lee - rebounds and defends - energy

2nd Unit

Nate - 3 point shooter to be kicked out too from Jamals penetration...can also create
Crawford - second best passer and should be on the court with Curry
Q-rich - rebounds....still brick city...but defends
Jefferies - actually rebounds now and plays defense
Curry - with q-rich and jeffries around him...his rebounding deficiencies are less noticed
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Post by TDANZA420 Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:54 pm

nice breakdown and i can now see why your team struggles lol

Randolph - Curry - Lee need to find room on the floor together but then you weaken the bench. Plus not to much D other then Lee. what a mess, wonder who Isiah will trade for next jajaja
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Post by TDANZA420 Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:32 am

I will be the first to admit when i'm wrong, and GD i was wrong. Team ball can get you a few wins in the NBA. look at how the Lakers beat our Bulls lastnight.

Kobe - 18pts 6rbs
Fisher - 10pts 5ast
Bynum - 12pts 10rbs (40min played)
Odom - 17pts 16rbs
Walton - 12pts 5ast
Leading them in scoring OFF THE BENCH was my boy Sasha Vujacic (under rated as a 65 by 2k) with 19pts..............6 players in double digits

Also note the following all had more rebounds then Ben Wallace:

Kobe
Bynum
Odom
FARMAR!!!!!
Ariza - tied BW with 5

Deng
Nocioni
GRAY!!!!
Thomas
Hinrich tied with 5

If wallace isn't rebounding why we paying him 15mil a season so that we play shorthanded 4 on 5. Its like a hockey game and we are always a man short

Its frustrating watching this team, cause we are off our game more then we are on it. We passed on KG and now Kobe all cause Paxson is to stubburn to make a deal. These are HIS guys that HE drafted so he wants to win or lose with HIS team. Swallow ur pride and make a move - your stuck with wallace and Deng is the only player other teams really want. Deng and Gordon are untouchable but seeing as we didn't resign either of them should have him in a panic. He won't sign any player to a contract that is untradable - and we know this as a fact cause he as stated it the past few years. He might have to with Deng but chances slim that both will return to the bulls in 08-09
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Post by aRod914 Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:18 am

saw the Bull vs. Lakers game last night.....it seemed as though Kirk was looking for his shot first rather than passing first.....
I guess it had something to do with Kobe tantalizing him on with his awesome fade-away. I love watching that guy play ball. Kobe = BEST baseketball player.
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Post by TDANZA420 Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:43 am

hard to argue that.......Kirk is effective coming off the screen and popping up for the 12-15ft jumper, other then that the rest of his game is iffy. You also make a good point, Kirk is the PG but Kobe was able to gaurd him cause BG is small and Fisher was able to play him man to man. Bulls seem to lack size down low and in the back court.

Whats this i hear Isiaha asked for 2 weeks to turn things around, will he quit after 2 weeks if they still struggle?
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